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This information raises more questions (and eyebrows) than it answers, as it would imply he worked concurrently with Pedler and the MBIC. (Taken from his obituary posted in The Elkhart Truth, 26 July 1919). It is interesting to note that Gronert worked for Conn until 1911, and 'then organized the Elkhart Musical Instrument Company which merged with the Martin Band Instrument Company, of which he was the secretary and general manager at the time of his death'. Gronert founded the American Manufacturing Company. Whether or not he ever returned to England is unknown.

Bags in hand, his return to London was abruptly hampered by the outbreak of WWI, and was unable make the voyage. Pedler worked for and with Conn until 1914, when, yearning for home, he left Conn's employ. At the age of 28 (1900), he reportedly left Rudall, Carte and Co., LTD, and began his own clarinet manufacturing business under his own name, until being ushered to the United States by Gronert with his wife, Louisa Hughes Pedler, and 5 year old son, Harry Junior. Gronert (AKA: 'Tommy Atkins', born 30 December, 1851 in Hastings, England) -a fellow Englishman, and associate of Charles Gerard Conn in July of 1905, at which point he was already considered a master clarinet craftsman, having been taught the trade by his tenure with Rudall, Carte and Co., LTD from the age of 13 (1885) first as an apprentice. was 'cherry-picked' from his native England by William J. Readers beware:Д«orn 21 January, 1872 in London, Harry Walter Pedler Sr. This is exciting and dangerous territory. It is our inherent responsibility to be as accurate as available information will allow. Understand that we are 'writing history' right now, presumably based upon honest representation and careful calculation of all we glean. The way we grow and learn is through the sharing of information, so I invite each knowledgeable reader to share what (s)he knows, or thinks (s)he knows. I will accept folklore, readily, and present it as such, until such information can be confirmed as fact, maintained as folklore, or easily disputed. I appreciate EVERY contribution of information, as this list will serve all who seek information on this topic. It is my hope that we can develop a timeline with an accumulation of serial numbers, random bits of data, advertisements and with good fortune, a sales receipt or two. As it is, there shall be many amendments to original posts, going forward. Please keep in mind that this thread is a work in progress, and while fact, or presumed 'fact' will be stated as fact, there will be many instances where factual data is not, or 'not yet' available, and it will be stated as such. There will no doubt be a good many more who offer future contibutions for which we will be forever thankful. AND I thank all of you who have engaged this thread with your insights and contributions. I thank those, too, who selflessly went to the trouble to make such information available to us.

#Rudall carte serial numbers flute music serial number

I offer my most sincere appreciation to Phil Pedler for making all of this possible in the first place, and for his tireless dedication to the preservation of clarinet history in its many forms across a multitude of spectrums, our own Silversorcerer for initially getting me interested in Pedler clarinets, his insistance that I start a HP thread, and his vast initial contribution of serial number data that enabled me to cobble together a noteworthy and legitimate list 'out of the gate', Dean McMakin for his phenominal collection of Elkhart data and tremendous, personal dedication to the incredible Indiana musical instrument industry at large, and our own Rocket350 for his insight, personal notes on Harry Pedler serial numbers and model designations, photographic contributions of warranty cards, and assistance in finding legitimate sources of information on the internet, scanned from the original sources dating from the beginning of the last century. Many very thoughtful and motivated people are to thank for the information thus far accumulated, and herein documented. Here you will find what will hopefully become the most comprehensive collection of Serial Number data on the Harry Pedler marque in cyberspace, as well as historical insight into the marvelous, mysterious maker who excelled as a pioneer and innovator-Mr. Welcome to The Official Clarinet Pages Harry Pedler Thread.